Neither Andi Dorfman or Josh Murray were among the Bachelor In Paradise Season 2 cast members unveiled by ABC earlier in the week.
However, new reports say both have been in talks to join the fun, and Murray is actually down ... so long as Dorfman is persona non grata.
Headed to Paradise this summer are familiar faces from Bachelor Nation like Jade Roper, Ashley Salter, Clare Crawley and Tenley Molzahn.
Joining them will be guys you don't recall like Dan Cox, Kirk DeWindt and Mike Tenerelli, plus more from The Bachelorette's current season.
It's no wonder that producers are courting Murray, who won Dorfman's heart on The Bachelorette last winter, to head south of the border.
Andi Dorfman and Josh Murray abruptly broke up earlier this year, and the show's brain trust is apparently urging both to come to Paradise.
So far, though, neither has booked a plane ticket to Mexico for a second shot at love and 15 more minutes of fame. But it could still happen.
Dorfman is said to be pressuring Chris Harrison to let her join, although the producers are more interested in Josh ... who wants Andi out.
Rumor has it Josh refuses to participate in the show if Andi is there, and that includes as a mystery cast member that arrives in mid-season.
If you remember from last season, every week people are sent home, but new Bachelor and Bachelorette castoffs show up to replace them.
Therefore, ABC could bring anyone in to blindside the "cast" they initially sent to Paradise and they would be as surprised as the viewers.
What do you think? Would you prefer to see Andi? Josh? Both? Neither? Could make for a lot more drama than the cast as it stands now:
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